![]() I looked at Amazon.ca,, Ebay and these S&H rates were just horrible, some double the price of the item itself.īach Small Shank Trombone Mouthpiece Silver 5G (3505G) - $46.95 CADīach 3506HAL Trombone Mouthpiece 6 1/2AL - $88.99 CADĪll the Yamaha ones are "Temporarily Out of Stock" and according to Google it could take months to ship so I just gave up on that. ![]() Last edited by adrian_quince 10-25-2017 at 02:29 AM.Thank you so much for the recommendations! I checked every single one of them and for me, probably because of my location (Canada), clones besides Schilke 51D were more expensive for me. It's a very sweet sound that will work well in a variety of settings. As a conductor, I've heard a 2280 from the podium. Both 58mark here on the forums and Steve Ferguson from The Horn Guys in LA are serious fans of the 2280. With all that said, Greg_R, in the price range you're shopping, I'd say the King 2280 should get some serious consideration in your search. Most non-comps, including the King, tend to favor a smaller bell for a more compact and direct sound than a British-style compensator. Frankly, depending on brand and model, the relative intonations as to each instrument are literally all over the map, so that a generalized statement of "typical" compensating intonation and "typical" non-compensating intonation just simply cannot be made.There are non-comps with a similar bore to a compensating euphonium, the King 2280 being a great example, but there aren't any that I've seen that have a similar bell. Moreover, please review Dave's charts showing the comparative intonations of various makes and models of euphoniums. I say "may," because every horn is different in one or more subtle or not-so-subtle ways. And even then, there are only two notes in most section literature that matter: 2nd line B natural fingered 4+2, and low E natural below the staff fingered the same way. Frankly, depending on brand and model, the relative intonations as to each instrument are literally all over the map, so that a generalized statement of "typical" compensating intonation and "typical" non-compensating intonation just simply cannot be made.Įverybody needs to remember that the compensation only comes into play with 4th valve combinations, so if a horn has a similar bore, similar wrap, and similar bell, then it may have similar response in section for anything using open, first, second, or third valves alone, or in combination not using the 4th valve. Euphdude's comments are also on point.Everybody needs to remember that the compensation only comes into play with 4th valve combinations, so if a horn has a similar bore, similar wrap, and similar bell, then it may have similar response in section for anything using open, first, second, or third valves alone, or in combination not using the 4th valve. If you expect to be playing in a euphonium section, there's another reason to get a compensating horn: it will blend better with your section mates (compensating horns are generally larger bore instruments than non-compensating). ![]() ![]() As far as durability, assuming the horn is well made, I wouldn't expect there to be appreciable differences in durability in comparing compensating/non-compensating horns I think I would be in the minority of euph players who would say that last point. But compensating valves are always longer and will have more mass.the best of the best compensating valves (think German Bessons and Yamahas and maybe Adams) have valve action that rivals the lightness that you have with the smaller non-compensating valves, but I still think there is something about the tactile feel of noncompensating valves that makes them seem easier to play. And the compensating system will allow you to play all the pitches down to pedal Bb if that is important to you.I love the Bach cello suites so it is important to me, but you won't need it for most band literature. Going to a larger bore horn does several things for me: bigger sound, easier and fuller lower range, and (for me) a bit less stamina in the high range. I haven't tried any of the JP euphoniums (but I have tried my former section mate's baritone, and it is very good), but in general compensating horns will have a larger bore than the Yamaha 321. ![]()
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